Ok I have some colonies of either these two and because I am quite sure these are not Myrmica rubra as I got told the queens are identical these queens are different and easy to tell apart even if you have just one queen and no workers you can tell and I saw a Manica rubida photo of queen and it looked like it im going to measure these ants soon and see how big they get...
Can anyone post Myrmica ruginodis photos with queens and Manica rubida?
And do Manica rubida and Myrmica ruginodis live in rotten wood as this is where I found these colonies in a big log...
And are Manica rubida in England or very rare here? or not here at all?
Thanks
Hope you can help me find out which species these are
I cannot get pictures I can but you wont be able to really tell that much... But If you want I will try put them on...




, workers are big 8-10mm and myrmica only 3-4,5 max ... so I think it is impossible to make mistake to research diferrents btw 



