Camponotus herculeanus

Beitragvon SteveUK28 » 19. Mär 2008 01:12

lol talk about gettin off track a little.. Miszt i totally agree with you friend. End of.. I look forward to seeing some more pics and info from ya miszt on these lovely ants :D
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Beitragvon badman » 19. Mär 2008 09:02

sorry miszt I know you wanted no further discussion of this, but

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this link contains the quote:

"In a mature colony, the single queen lays eggs throughout the summer, which soon hatch and overwinter as larvae. Larval growth is concentrated in June and early July. Growth then slows down and they spend a second winter as larvae, pupating during their second summer."


which does indeed cite "the ants" as reference. So there's your source frico.
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Beitragvon KiamCameron » 19. Mär 2008 09:06

:o camponotus herculeanus queen must have a hard time :/ Do they do what formica species or lay there eggs on there own or take workers from the originally colony to help her? Because 12-18 months wouldnt that kill her without no worker?
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Beitragvon miszt » 19. Mär 2008 12:48

thats pretty much exactly what The Ants says badman if my memory is correct, thanks for the link:)

Yep she certainly has a tough time Kiam, although they are pretty formidable ants, big and strong, hidden away inside there initial hole, anything that can fit inside the hole can probably be fought off by the Queen
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Beitragvon Frico » 20. Mär 2008 21:43

I will stop writing here then, but allow me a last comment to close my point.

I wasnt saying you were lying, but that u understood it wrong or didnt remember correctly.I'll never say that you know what you say is wrong and then claim it isnt.

As i said too, 31+ degrees is way to hot, and you should keep them from 25-30 for the best result.
I always cool them some degress down, when it reached 30 degrees, since its max.

And as i said for some posts ago, its a odd thing to say with the Metabolic rates.
Not because i dont beleave its true or not.That doesnt matter, the odd thing was, that you assumed that i must have kept the ants to hot because of their "faster" growth rate and that it would damage them.(im not sure if you even beleave me that they developed in 2 months)
But the thing is, you dont know where this damaging points is.Its not stated anywhere(we know), maybe you know the point of some fish, but you dont know it of this species.
Therefore its just an assumption, the point could be at 34 degrees etc!(im not saying it is).

And at last, whats everything is about, i was claiming that the regular/normal growth rate for the species as whole were 2-3 month and you said it was 12-18 Months.(everything else would be out of the normal and unhealthy for the Colony)
We were arguing about the species as a whole, not the species in an specific area.

I accept the Link and the statement as true, as i excepts my own aswell.

I wont open a second thread, since other people may not find it in the future, and be misinformed by either one of us.Therefore it should be ended here.
I wont make a second comment, unless i have "THE" answer for our discussion.
cya then.

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Beitragvon ant dude » 21. Mär 2008 00:15

chill!!!

n break this argument up wit some gd old pics..pls :P :P :P
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Beitragvon miszt » 21. Mär 2008 00:55

heres a nice one I shot a few weeks ago, sharing food :)
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You can see the eye of the worker on the right has a dent in it, this seems to be a sign of old age in ants that I have noticed with other colonies aswell, this worker died about 2 weeks after this photo was taken
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Beitragvon badman » 23. Mär 2008 19:49

My herculaneus are in a sand/loam farm, they are wood ants though, and I believe the use wood chips to line the chambers of their nest. Miszt yours are in cork aren't they? Do they also have wood in the formicarium? If so what kind of wood is best? Any dead wood I find?
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Beitragvon SNiDE » 15. Apr 2008 15:12

Hi all, hope this isnt off topic- my first worker hatched today! I realised after ordering that Camponotus herc. was abit ambitious for a first timer but it seems to be going ok. Just wondered if anyone had any advice specific to this species about when to move them out of the test tube or whether to leave them in there and let them move when they want to, or any advice generally. At the moment the queen & worker are feeding on honey water from a cotton wool bud and tending a brude of 2 pupae and about 14 eggs.
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Beitragvon badman » 15. Apr 2008 21:17

mine moved very soon after getting them, they had 8 workers at the time and are doing fine.
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Beitragvon miszt » 15. Apr 2008 21:26

I would leave them in their test tube for another year Snide, because they are very timid for the first generation or two, and you wont see them out at all until you have a few workers, as a general rule, 10-20% of the colony only will be out foraging, so if you have 10 workers, you will see 1 or 2 workers out, and the rest will be in the nest, also as they are very timid, they will freeze as soon as they are disturbed, and depending on your setup they may be very hard to spot

later generations will be more bold :)
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Beitragvon SNiDE » 16. Apr 2008 03:45

Ok, I'll let them leave the tube when they feel necessary. Thanks for the replies :)
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Beitragvon miszt » 16. Apr 2008 04:33

chances are they will move given the oppertunity, i wuldnt give them the oppertunity just yet
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Beitragvon SNiDE » 26. Apr 2008 02:02

Quick update- up to 3 workers now, have fed them from honey water on cotton, trying to find a way to get a dead insect into their tube without disrupting the queen to much. They have stuffed the empty sack that the pupae had grown in with larvea, and left the eggs outside. Really lovely looking insects, great to watch.
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Beitragvon SNiDE » 27. Apr 2008 23:02

ok quick question- none of my 3 workers are foraging, i know they arent because the soil that blocks up the test tube is always sealed. I force a cotton bud with honey water which the queen enjoys every 2 days, but other than that there is no foraging and no food, the workers just sit around the brood tending them. Is this normal?
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