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The ANT book

Beitragvon Franco » 11. Dez 2008 17:32

Ciao, anybody has the book THE ANT writen by Bert Holldobler and Edward O Wilson, I notice that there are two version of this book one with this ISBN 3540520929 and an other one (looks older ) with this ISBN 0674040759, the second one is much cheaper.
Anybody know if there are sustantial differenc between the two editions ?
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Re: The ANT book

Beitragvon JimmyVe » 12. Dez 2008 20:12

Hello Franco and :sign_welcome:

Sorry can't help you with that.
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Re: The ANT book

Beitragvon A_Wilhelm » 4. Feb 2009 14:13

Hi Franco,
Sorry for not having answered earlier :)

I've got the book and both versions are exactly the same. The only difference is the cheaper one was published buy Belknap and the expensive one by Springer. Apparently, the latest wants to earn more money with it :wink: but they're the same page by page. Even the paper quality seems the same.

Hope that helps
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Re: The ANT book

Beitragvon akell » 4. Feb 2009 23:04

Is that Journey to the Ant? Is that the same book?
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Re: The ANT book

Beitragvon damondeionno » 4. Feb 2009 23:34

No, journey to the ants is a far more basic book.

The Ants is a worthwhile investment if you are passionate about ants.
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Re: The ANT book

Beitragvon A_Wilhelm » 5. Feb 2009 10:11

Exactly. As damondeionno says, The Ants is THE book about ants, it has everything you could possibly know about ants. On the other hand, Journey to the Ants was written for a broader audience, is much shorter and basic, and it doesn't have the huge amount of information the other one has at all.
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Re: The ANT book

Beitragvon akell » 5. Feb 2009 15:56

Oh the reference book. Wilson's magnum opus. I had the pleasure of meeting him several times when I was a student. He would sit in the Yard watching groups of students getting together and going off on their separate ways, or, " gathering and dispersing", always jotting something down in his notebook. At the time I had no idea what he was up to. I don't think too many people did. He was always very gracious, "don't mind me, kids...". Yes it certainly is THE book about ants. No dispute there, fellows.
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Re: The ANT book

Beitragvon Zagone » 5. Feb 2009 17:11

I really wanna get this book, and I will eventually. I saw Edward O. Wilson on Discovery Channel's ultimate Guide: Ants and loved how enthusiasticly he speaks about ants.

Actaully reminds me of myself whenever someone gets me talking about something that interests me alot. :roll:
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Re: The ANT book

Beitragvon SteveUK28 » 5. Feb 2009 17:19

I have to admit.. i didnt want to spend so much on a book.. especialy as its just a hobby and i know what i need anyway... But i did buy journey to the Ants and it is a very good book.. basic compared to The Ants.. but still good.. and contains a lot that is in The Ants.
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Re: The ANT book

Beitragvon akell » 5. Feb 2009 19:01

I have Journey to the ants too, and I also enjoy it. I look at the big book in the public library and just note down what I need. It seems nobody goes to the library anymore. The place is empty all the time. I love it, it is as if it is my private library.
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Re: The ANT book

Beitragvon Zagone » 5. Feb 2009 22:35

Libraries are awesome, I hould check if my local one has that book... Else I'll whip them 'til they do!
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Re: The ANT book

Beitragvon akell » 5. Feb 2009 22:49

That's the spirit!
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Re: The ANT book

Beitragvon A_Wilhelm » 6. Feb 2009 11:53

Yes, Journey to the Ants is still a great book, no question about that. It's only that The Ants is just... the ant heaven :D
Anyway, I'd definitely encourage anyone to ask their local library to bring it. And speaking about libraries, it's really hard to find anything about ants in them. Here in England, what you get is loads of books about birds, some books about mammals, the odd one about insects (with one or two pages dedicated to ants) and NOTHING about ants.
But hey, that probably makes it even more interesting, it's like being iniciated in an obscure science :wink:
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Re: The ANT book

Beitragvon Messorus » 6. Feb 2009 15:12

I still have just three books about ants- Journey to the ants, and than two others- ,,Ants of Central and Southern europe" by B. Seifert(2007) and ,,Ant´s bionomy" by Dr. O. Obenberger(around 1940 years). I´ve read few texts in the book The Ants myself too, it´s big ant bible full of informations, determination keys, photos and so on, but I think people must have some more knownledge just how to keep ants right, if they want to read this book. For me was texts hard, but if I will make more ant preparations in the future, and also collections, this book will be very helpful :grin:
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Re: The ANT book

Beitragvon akell » 7. Feb 2009 00:27

I've looked on every Amazon store with an English Section; DE, NL, UK, US, you name it. 99% of what's available are written for 8-12 year olds, then there's "Journey to the Ants", which does have a small, but very good section on ant keeping and specimen keeping in the appendix, and after that we jump straight into Entymology theses. Not that there is anything wrong with a lot of books for 8-12 year olds, don't get me wrong here, I am all for it, but I would really enjoy reading something in between "Molecular phylogeny of the insect order Hymenoptera: apocritan relationships", and "Emily the Ant and the Rainy Day". ...Emily is kind of cool, though...
That was quiye a rant, excuse me.
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