My Camponotus species

Re: My Camponotus castaneus

Beitragvon gabranth » 19. Okt 2008 19:21

JimmyVe hat geschrieben:You can post a new message with the picture. ;)

I'm sorry forget to check what's wrong with the edit buttons, i will work on it now. :oops:



see you next year ;)


edit: hey the edit button works :D
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Re: My Camponotus castaneus

Beitragvon melk9 » 21. Okt 2008 00:46

I'm pouring a little bit of vitamines in the food of my camponotus, that is simply very sweet juice of different fruits. They got full of the juice with the vitamines. Let's see the benefits of the vitamines in their diet, if it will afect the colony development. Check this pick where an worker is feeding another. Look the little abdomen full of juice in the pick. :wink:

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Re: My Camponotus castaneus

Beitragvon melk9 » 21. Okt 2008 00:53

Well... :wink: The photo that's should be in the 1st post here was this one. The protecting mother.

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Re: My Camponotus castaneus

Beitragvon gabranth » 21. Okt 2008 10:03

nice all you have to do now is wait for a major to be born :)
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Re: My Camponotus castaneus

Beitragvon McK » 31. Okt 2008 23:30

I'm sorry to inform you that the species you have is not Camponotus castaneus.
I have two small colonies myself and the queen you have looks nothing like a castaneus queen.

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Here are the profiles of the queen, male and workers.
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You are correct about the size of the queen though, she is really huge.
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Re: My Camponotus castaneus

Beitragvon gabranth » 1. Nov 2008 03:58

is this Camponotus substitutus or something?
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Re: My Camponotus castaneus

Beitragvon McK » 1. Nov 2008 12:53

It looks like a species out of the Camponotus maculatus group, but I'm not sure.
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Re: My Camponotus castaneus

Beitragvon Skippy » 1. Nov 2008 15:32

yes that is Tanaemyrmex group , but not maculatus , not substitutus and not other what you said , but I do not myself which one , you have to call it Camponotus sp. , or ask some myrmecologist
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Re: My Camponotus castaneus

Beitragvon Messorus » 1. Nov 2008 15:57

Hey guys... colour is the last point for determination of insect species. First you must look on taxonomic´s points for determination :grin:
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Re: My Camponotus castaneus

Beitragvon McK » 1. Nov 2008 16:08

We know, but sometimes color can help you finding the group and then you can look for the other features.
For instance I used to have this unknown Formica species, but the workers and the queen were all light-orange, so I looked for the Formica species with that color and so I eventually ended with Formica pallidefulva.

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Re: My Camponotus castaneus

Beitragvon gabranth » 1. Nov 2008 16:11

those workers look like camponotus workers
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Re: My Camponotus castaneus

Beitragvon McK » 1. Nov 2008 16:15

So it would appear, but they're not ;)

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Re: My Camponotus castaneus

Beitragvon The_Paranoid » 1. Nov 2008 17:30

Messorus hat geschrieben:Hey guys... colour is the last point for determination of insect species. First you must look on taxonomic´s points for determination :grin:

Just want to stress this.


McK has given a very good example with his Formica pallidefulva. Here's another picture of this specie
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As you can see, color can vary widely within one specie.

Skippy hat geschrieben:yes that is Tanaemyrmex group

How can you be so sure about it? There are about 30 Camponotus subgenera out there.
Besides, if you look at the clypeus of the queen, I'd say that it is no Tanaemyrmex ... but you can't see it clearly enough to be sure.
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Re: My Camponotus castaneus

Beitragvon Skippy » 1. Nov 2008 18:49

@the_paranoid

sorry , but on first McK´s pick it really looks like Camponotus , and I forgot to write there "i think" :^o :grin: ... , yes you cannot see head ;) , but I told it by I see much of Tanae. has more tinyer thorax/body/head than other groups. Formica pallidefulva looks interesting , on that pic of colony it looks to be Camponotus , but probably that is by colour what we can´t see in my nature , and that is confusing - I talk about first look on body , when I see these pupae without cocoon , then it asking me an question what does it is.
Do no take care about my reply ;) I am just learning in taxnomy now , and Messorus is wright , colour is just last point of determination :idea:
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Re: My Camponotus castaneus

Beitragvon melk9 » 6. Nov 2008 23:38

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Can you guys see the pupaes? I hope now they will turn into workers... No more nurses please!!!! :grin:
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