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[si co15]

ok i see you all hate those gel farms
and yes i read what you said about them

but
you say that the queen will not reproduce in them and from what i have gathered on your forums it is because the is not enough nutrients vitamins proteins in this gel solution to allow her to produce eggs if this is the case is it not possible just to have an extra source of food that will supply what is necessary?

i dont own one but am planning to try this out
unless you have some kind of explanation of why this will not work or have tried it your selves

or as one of your members pointed out haveing it as an addon to a larger farm just to see clearly the ants underground in the blue gel

[JimmyVe]

The Gel farms just don't work out. You can not raise a colony in there. Believe me (us).
If you like to keep ants give them a good farm.

They only thing the Gel farms are good for is to observe a few workers for a few days (and than see them die)

[si co15]

Yes and back to the subject
If you have protein then the queen should live and produce offspring,
so whats the problem.

other than that the only problem is the small size of the tank

[SteveUK28]

Si.. if u want to waste ur money and see a queen die then carry on.. Just done come back here later and moan about it.. as you have been warned.
But i have to ask.. why you one in the first place when there are plenty of other VERY GOOD farms that let you see the colony just as well.

[si co15]

Why would the queen die can you give one explanation

[mysiak]

Because the gel will "melt" from humidity in the box (sooner or later) and ants will get stuck in it or just drown. I know that it will happen as I bought this type of farm few years ago when there were no reliable reviews.. Trust everyone who says that don't buy this crap.

[si co15]

OK iv got an idea how about a non organic nontoxic clear gel
that will allow the tunnels to be visible although not be a food or moisture source.
Just a habitat.
i don't believe anything other tank could make the tank as visible as a clear gel tank.

[ratgreen]

also the gel is see thro, good for you, not for the ants, they will be stressed out in the light and will not lay any eggs.

[JimmyVe]

If you want a good setup to see into the nest area use a y-tong ! (search here at the web, plenty of nice examples.

[si co15]

So ants wont lay eggs in light i didn't know that. Will this not be a problem for the y-tong?

Still all considerations aside
My idea should work i think, or can anyone else see any flaws?

By the way i do know other tanks exist what I'm trying to find is a way to make this work WELL.

[JayB1983]

In my opinion, there are some flaws in your head. Why don´t you listen to all those people, who know that this gel-farm isn´t working. Your acting like a 12yo who goes shopping with his mummy. But but but I wanna.....
You would not like sleeping in a house made of glass, also with a roof made of glass and the room filled up with some f****d up gel. Give those ants you gonna buy a good start in an "ordinary" farm (uuh, mummy, i don´t want an ordinary one, I want the one which is glowing in the dark...) and don´t throw their lives and your money away.

[SteveUK28]

Hear Hear J... Its been done its been tested and it is crap... Listen to the experts who have DONE it already...

[si co15]

Look guys get one thing straight i posted a simple.Post i explained myself fairly simply.

I am looking for an explanation........ just READ my first post for Christs sake.

JayB1983 your post seems a little stupid no i would not like to live in a tank filled with gel so the ants wont ether, is that what your saying?
Are you saying im an ant? will i like living in tunnels of dirt eating insects and sugar off the ground?

maybe i should give the ants what l like a house with windows and doors a Laptop t.v. and ps3 a dinning room with a table and chairs so they can drink cups of tea.

Please read before you post , I did.

so far as i have only received 2 relevant posts, 1: the gel will dissolve with moisture (so i will need a different type of gel), 2:that excessive light might be a problem(although this problem is easily over came)

from this information i will not be using an antworks tank but something of my own with a different gel mixture.

i understand ye guys are trying to help me and thanks, but i already know what your advise is. I said a read the other topics on gel farms.

I am looking for INFORMATION not advise

[JayB1983]

You gotta look outside the box. I was not saying, you were an ant. I want you to understand, that every user should try to keep his ants in some kind of natural way. We need to check several things, like moisture, temperature and "dimmed" light, to make the colony grow. If we don´t, they´ll die. And you are asking seriously, why they can´t grow in such thing as this gel???
Those ants aren´t like dogs or cats who will accept changes in their lifes. Ants are very primitively creatures who won´t accustom themselves to new living circumstances, like that gel. If that circumstances aren´t right, the queen won´t lay eggs...

Looks like my edit-button is gone...
=> edit Mod
should be there

However, I forgot to say that I read your post. Like the other posts from people before, about every 2 month a new one about this topic. And every time, there is a new guy, with his "cool" ideas, like you.

[JimmyVe]

Like i said before, the gel don't work. Ants don't like it, they will die in there. What other explanation do you need ... ?

It maybe looks cool but i doesn't work. If you like a good farm, you can easy (and it is cheap) make one of your own.
First you got to look what species of ant you would like to keep, than check on the natural habitat. Make a farm for them that they would like (without the gel ). Check also the temperature and humidity they need.
If you see picture of the y-tong farms you only see them without the cover. Normally we have the nest area covered so there is no light in there. Ants don't like it when there is light in the nest. If you take pictures or if you like to see inside you can take to cover away for a few minutes. But you will see the colony will be stressed doing it.

My advice, read a bit around at the forum, what ants like and how to keep them. Than diced if you still want to keep ants and which species. Make a good farm and enjoy your ants. Don't forget you need allot of patience to.

@ All: don't make me clean up here. Thanks