What species is this ant?

What species is this ant?

Beitragvon firelion98 » 18. Nov 2012 10:58

What is this species of ant i thinking that is a Messor barbarus queen but I'am not sure.
Here some pictures:
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Re: what is this species of ant

Beitragvon Pi.Ag3 » 18. Nov 2012 11:12

It's a Messor queen, but I don't know which species this might be. I guess you caught her in Israel (?), so it's probably not M. barbarus.

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Re: what is this species of ant

Beitragvon firelion98 » 18. Nov 2012 16:52

yes i caught her in Israel, so if it's not M. barbarus what species of ant is this? :?:
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Re: what is this species of ant

Beitragvon Pi.Ag3 » 18. Nov 2012 17:48

There are many Messor species (I think more than 15) in Isreal. The identification is not easy, I don't know (and very probably no one else in this forum) which species this is.

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Re: what is this species of ant

Beitragvon firelion98 » 18. Nov 2012 17:53

my queen ant looks like this one viewtopic.php?f=133&t=15312

and she is 1 cm long
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Re: what is this species of ant

Beitragvon baumarkthammer » 18. Nov 2012 23:10

All Messor queens look very much alike.
It is very hard to tell which species it is. However the size of 1cm is very small for a Messor queen so there shouldn´t be that many possible species but I don´t know any small Messor species from Israel and I have no time to look it up at the moment. So you will have to go with Messor spp. for the time being.^^
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Re: what is this species of ant

Beitragvon firelion98 » 19. Nov 2012 12:06

baumarkthammer hat geschrieben:All Messor queens look very much alike.
It is very hard to tell which species it is. However the size of 1cm is very small for a Messor queen so there shouldn´t be that many possible species but I don´t know any small Messor species from Israel and I have no time to look it up at the moment. So you will have to go with Messor spp. for the time being.^^


Sorry but what is this "Messor spp"?
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Re: what is this species of ant

Beitragvon baumarkthammer » 19. Nov 2012 17:43

When you don´t know what species exactly it is you can either write it as Messor sp. or as Messor spp..
Both means that you have a undefined species of the genus Messor while "spp." is the plural of "sp." and as such is wrong in my original post.^^
It is just a short form of writing species.
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Re: what is this species of ant

Beitragvon firelion98 » 19. Nov 2012 19:22

So how i will know the species of my ant? :oops:
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Re: what is this species of ant

Beitragvon baumarkthammer » 20. Nov 2012 11:21

Well you can´t always tell what species it is. Also your pictures aren´t good enough. They would have to be really good for us to be able to tell you more.
But as I said the small size of the ant tells us very much. 1cm is very small for a Messor queen and not many species are that small in Israel.

For example Messor ebeninus queens are about the size of 1cm so it could be a Messor ebeninus. And that is honestly the most I can tell you. I do not have much information about the ants of Israel!
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Re: What species is this ant?

Beitragvon suny » 22. Nov 2012 07:54

Nice post. I like it. Thanks for sharing these information. Keep it up. =D>
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Re: What species is this ant?

Beitragvon firelion98 » 21. Jan 2013 17:14

Hi ,
I have my queen from november 2012 and she still don't have lay eggs, I tried to give her honey but she didn't want any.
what to do? :(
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Re: What species is this ant?

Beitragvon Markus » 21. Jan 2013 17:56

I know, this is far away, but in southern europe Messor barbarus usually hold hibernation before laying eggs,
perhaps your Messor sp. need something like that too!?
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Re: What species is this ant?

Beitragvon firelion98 » 21. Jan 2013 19:02

In what temperatures she need to be hibernated?
(I know that in to coold temperature she will die)
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Re: What species is this ant?

Beitragvon Markus » 21. Jan 2013 19:52

If you want to know, what temperatures are adäquat for them,
look at those of their nature,
climate diagrams could help!
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