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Beitragvon Antman0067 » 7. Mär 2005 01:55

Does anyone have any colonies they can sell me and send them to america ?

Fire Ants in particular
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Beitragvon charles17 » 6. Jun 2005 23:41

haha... i too am an american looking for ants... stupid government restrictions lol
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Beitragvon Awesome » 7. Jun 2005 09:33

charles17 hat geschrieben:haha... i too am an american looking for ants... stupid government restrictions lol


I really dont get it, you guys have som many species in North America, why dont you look for a queen yourself?

Just have a look at Hyperlinks sind nur für registrierte Nutzer sichtbar link, it might help you.

Good luck!
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Beitragvon charles17 » 7. Jun 2005 23:30

well, for some reason theres only these tiny ants (like 2 mm or less). ive been looking for larger varieties cuz i know they exist, but they're not that common. and i see some fireants, but only at school. i live in southern california if that means anything? i havent seen much variation even though ive moved a couple times...

and thanks for link... but it didnt work. lol
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Beitragvon Awesome » 8. Jun 2005 09:03

charles17 hat geschrieben:well, for some reason theres only these tiny ants (like 2 mm or less). ive been looking for larger varieties cuz i know they exist, but they're not that common. and i see some fireants, but only at school. i live in southern california if that means anything? i havent seen much variation even though ive moved a couple times...

and thanks for link... but it didnt work. lol


Funny, they link works for me :? are you on AOL perhaps?
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Beitragvon charles17 » 8. Jun 2005 10:31

ok it works now. thanks. but what would be helpful is a place that tells you how to get, or sells, queens -_- lol
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Beitragvon Gordon C. Snelling » 8. Jul 2007 16:54

Charles17 I am pretty darned familiar with the area you live in. Admittedly down in the Arcadia area itself, you will likely only find Argentine ants, however just a few minutes away is the Angeles National Forest. There is an incredible diversity of ants there. In addition just a short drive further is the Mojave Desert with it's huge ant diversity. There are plenty of ants in your area, you just need to go get them.
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Beitragvon MilitANT » 8. Jul 2007 17:25

As much as I am all for shipping ants, Fire Ants and Argentine Ants are species I would not want to see traded/bought/sold.
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Beitragvon Bob » 8. Jul 2007 20:43

t's weird how non americans keep talking about the so called 'ant diversity' of the U.S. All I want to know is ...where are they?? Charles17 rest assured there are a ton of other Americans out here who understand your pain. The restrictions and complete lack of ant vendors in the U.S is indeed very frustrating. I wish Gordon C. Sneling could also tell me how to acquire/find a larger ant species in the state of Georgia.
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Beitragvon miszt » 8. Jul 2007 21:06

u culd contact your local nature reserves and ask them what species of ant they have there, find out if there are any with mass mating flights that are not endrged (duno if theres any endangered ants in the us), then go down n get sum :D
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Beitragvon Bob » 8. Jul 2007 21:20

I could and I will though with my luck I've probably missed the mating flights already. I don't believe in excavating established colonies simply because

1) It takes years for those colonies to reach that level of establishment. Then along comes man and the colony is gone from nature. (removing the queen means the colony perishes).

2) Secondly, excavated colonies (from my experience) are the types of colonies that are more likely to crash because. a) They are light sensitive and being exposed to light, after years, especially for the queen can have consequences(such as halting her egg laying cycle).

b) They are used to their natural environment and a 'change in environment' disrupts them and sends them into 'self destruct mode'.

c) They have become used to collecting food a certain way and once that way is eliminated, it becomes very challenging for them to accept formicarium based food.

For these reasons and more, I do not and will not excavate established colonies. However I am all for rearing new colonies from queens in test tubes. In fact I currently have two fire ants in test tubes who have a big clutch of eggs each and will hopefully live to see them become workers. Once they're established, I will release them. What I'm really looking for are carpenter queens. Anyways let's see what happens.
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Beitragvon MilitANT » 8. Jul 2007 21:25

Bob: We do have a very diverse species of ants -- they just aren't the ones you, I and other Americans are looking for. We want big, observable ants. Hop on yahoo if you're still at your comp!
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Beitragvon nepenthes_ak » 8. Jul 2007 23:06

Quite honestly, I like small ants? They take up allot less space, Well unless they are Creamatogaster, then you know how that is! Take a look at Temnothorax, they are small, easy to rear, and funny to see 20 alates being supported by 40 workers.
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Beitragvon JimmyVe » 9. Jul 2007 17:06

I understand if you like bigger ants. I prefer them to, but i also have a lot of small species, they are very nice to and also (most times) easier to keep. Maybe you need to start with some species from you own country (always easier).
I must say I'm glad i live in Europe, here we can buy ore trade ants. ;)
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Beitragvon Varban » 9. Jul 2007 20:18

Well technically we can only trade ants throughout the EU. Before that you wouldn't be able to trade them outside Germany without the proper documents and all.

Same way you can trade ants throughout the states of the US but not outside it. Anyway there are indeed a lot of species of ants in the US as you already know. So guess someone has to start an antstore in the us.

Alan is starting a store in the UK and has sourced loads of stuff for it. Maybe if you are really dedicated you can ask him for advice and solve the problem for all americans looking to buy ants :)
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