Crematogaster

Crematogaster

Beitragvon Wedge » 1. Apr 2008 19:33

I notice there are hundreds(?) of species within the Crematogaster genus - are their major differences between the species would you say?

E.g. are all Crematogaster canopy dwelling or arboreal?

I've learned so much about my own Crematogaster rogenhoferi, and I'm wondering if keeping other species of Crematogaster would be very / any different?

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Beitragvon miszt » 1. Apr 2008 19:37

there are huge diffrences between some species, and only tiny variations between others, certainly they are not all arboreal, I encountered many terrastrial ones in Western Africa this year, many living on the beach, some in wet areas, some dry, some where small, some larger

it would all depend on where the species comes from as to whether it would be the same to look after as your rogenhoferi
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Beitragvon Wedge » 3. Apr 2008 15:24

Thanks for that, there's so much variation I see.
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Re: Crematogaster

Beitragvon melk9 » 14. Feb 2009 16:36

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I found this queen in 19.12.2008, inside the bathroom of the university I teach. The colony today is very nice and healthy. I counted 20 workers. :mrgreen:
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Re: Crematogaster

Beitragvon JimmyVe » 14. Feb 2009 16:44

Lucky you. ;) Nice ants.
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Crematogaster Scutellaris

Beitragvon melk9 » 19. Feb 2009 18:26

My Scutellaris queen. Collected yesterday!!!

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Re: Crematogaster Scutellaris

Beitragvon Messorus » 19. Feb 2009 20:45

melk9 hat geschrieben:My Scutellaris queen. Collected yesterday!!!

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Hello Melk
I´m sure, that this is not Myrmicinae, either no Crematogaster. Crematogasters have peak gaster and two parts of petiolus(this is also the head point for Myrmicinae)

For me this looks like some Formica, but the determination of Brazil ants by internet´s photo :D :D :D But for Formica they have longer antenae... I don´t know.... But also lovely queen. Take a good care, you have nice ant species :wink:
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Re: Crematogaster Scutellaris

Beitragvon melk9 » 19. Feb 2009 21:23

Messorus hat geschrieben:
melk9 hat geschrieben:My Scutellaris queen. Collected yesterday!!!

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Hello Melk
I´m sure, that this is not Myrmicinae, either no Crematogaster. Crematogasters have peak gaster and two parts of petiolus(this is also the head point for Myrmicinae)

For me this looks like some Formica, but the determination of Brazil ants by internet´s photo :D :D :D But for Formica they have longer antenae... I don´t know.... But also lovely queen. Take a good care, you have nice ant species :wink:


That's completely correct, Messorus! The Scutellaris keeps the heart shape of the gaster, and this one I posted haven't this caracteristic. So here we probably have a Black and Red Ant - Formica obscuriventris. Got this classification here:

http://images.google.com.br/imgres?imgu ... hl%3Dpt-BR

Here in my garden there's a colony of those. They make beautiful workers!!! :grin:
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Re: Crematogaster

Beitragvon Messorus » 20. Feb 2009 09:33

Yes, you are true, the heart shape of gaster. I never looked at their gaster as on a ,,heart" but yes, I think it´s right thing.
Please use C. scutellaris as name, because I first time didn´t know if you meant ant genus or species. But also, this is lovely ant queen and I believe you, that you want breed a colony from her.

I can remember, than in the spring of 07(it was my first ant season) I was very spellbound from workers of Formica cinerea in m garden. I said to myself ,,I want to have these ants at my formicarium" as I was saying always, when I found some interesting species. Now I have one young colony of these ants and I must say, they are really nice. Formica is good for keeping, but I get advices by Skippy(and I got experience that it´s true), that Formica colony with brood needs proteins minimal once a week, or they will eat them... But this is more true for forest species of Europe, F. polyctena, F. sanguinea, F. exsceta.....

Sorry from my bad english
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Re: Crematogaster

Beitragvon melk9 » 26. Feb 2009 03:58

Messorus hat geschrieben:Yes, you are true, the heart shape of gaster. I never looked at their gaster as on a ,,heart" but yes, I think it´s right thing.
Please use C. scutellaris as name, because I first time didn´t know if you meant ant genus or species. But also, this is lovely ant queen and I believe you, that you want breed a colony from her.

I can remember, than in the spring of 07(it was my first ant season) I was very spellbound from workers of Formica cinerea in m garden. I said to myself ,,I want to have these ants at my formicarium" as I was saying always, when I found some interesting species. Now I have one young colony of these ants and I must say, they are really nice. Formica is good for keeping, but I get advices by Skippy(and I got experience that it´s true), that Formica colony with brood needs proteins minimal once a week, or they will eat them... But this is more true for forest species of Europe, F. polyctena, F. sanguinea, F. exsceta.....

Sorry from my bad english


Yes!!!! I'll have a colony out of it! And actually by now the Formica queen has already a little amount of eggs. The formicary that will receive it is ready already. Just need to wait a little bit more. And I got another crematogaster Sp and this one, as well, is full of eggs! But I'll not keep this one, because I don't have much more room left for it!
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Re: Crematogaster

Beitragvon melk9 » 5. Mär 2009 17:06

I have made a blog to have recorded each level of development of the crematogaster colony. Check it out: Hyperlinks sind nur für registrierte Nutzer sichtbar
Unfortunaly it's in portuguese, but at least you guys can see the images.
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Re: Crematogaster

Beitragvon JimmyVe » 5. Mär 2009 17:51

Very nice blog melk. ;)
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Re: Crematogaster

Beitragvon melk9 » 23. Apr 2009 19:04

Hello guys

Now in my blog it's possible to read it in your language. It's a google tool of translation. It's just bellow the title of the blog: Hyperlinks sind nur für registrierte Nutzer sichtbar
This month I'll be posting more photos with the development of the colony.

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Re: Crematogaster

Beitragvon bryguy97 » 14. Feb 2010 22:23

I like you're crematogaster colony!
I hope it grows HUGE! :D
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