New Y-Tong/Myrmica rubra

Beitragvon Azzer » 11. Jul 2007 18:50

Edited wrong post out and inserted correct post! (attempted multiple posts at once in different tabs :P)

My colony is doing fantastically. I managed to take two (fairly blurry) pictures of the insides of the nest and the feeding area (while they were out feeding en masse) immediately one after the other, and then using Photoshop to "mark" the ants (bright pink paintbrush :P) I did a vague headcount... I am now up to between 150-170 ants. There are lots of newly hatched/baby ants (they are much lighter in colour when newly born - almost yellow/orange) in the nest area and a huge number of eggs at different stages.

Maintenance wise, Waxworm chrysalises (chrysali?), sliced in two down the middle (as in "from head to toe") remain the favourite food - they absolutely devour the soft insides of these, and prefer it to the waxworms themselves or the moths. I have also purchased a Thermostat ("Reptile ThermoControl PRO II Thermostat /CoolerStat"), which I have connected to a very low power heat lamp. I keep this heat lamp about 1.5 feet (45cm or so) away from the nest area, and it is aimed at the black-velvet cover that keeps the ytong "in the dark". The thermostat switches the lamp on/off as necessary, maintaining the nest at a constant 23 degrees celsius during the day, and off at night. I will use this for hibernation too when they go out to the shed, and set it to 5 degrees celsius to help ensure it does not drop below freezing.

Here are a few more photos taken over the last few days. The one with the tomato was interesting - they weren't very interested in the tomato slice, but they did spend a little time placing grains of white sand on to it - the tomato was "clean" when it went in, it is the ants that covered it in sand one grain at a time! Sorry about the flash reflection on the nest photos. Comments above each picture explain/point out anything interesting, and remember to click to see them fullsize (a couple are huge even after I cropped them, so be sure to zoom them in on your browser too, rather than let your browser shrink them down to fit in the window).
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Ant-Nest_01.jpg
Queen is visible bottom-middle. Bundle of very new eggs just up from the queen, and also underneath her. Eggs at different stages to the right and above the queen. Newly hatched ant on far left.
Ant-Nest_02.jpg
Number of eggs being cared for in the tunnels.
Ant-feed_01.jpg
Roughly 80 ants in this picture! Devouring three waxworm chrysalis sliced in halves.
Ant-feed_02.jpg
Gruesome close-up of the feeding banquet.
Ant-feed_03.jpg
Tomato with grains of sand that the ants placed on.
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Beitragvon Kiam » 11. Jul 2007 21:37

Wow Nice
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Beitragvon Skippy » 11. Jul 2007 21:44

Yes ,very nice nest Azzer

How many queens you have in this colony? ,when someone had colony of Myrmica rubra ,I think ,the best number of queens is 3. Also ,when I posting to somebody colony of Myrmica rubra ,I sending always 3 queens and ca 100 workers. It is good start to colony in forumicarium with this numbers.
(When I was child ,I had colony ca 40 queens and ca 2000-3000 workers ,very BIG colony ,but I had no experience and all ants died :( ... lol )

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Beitragvon Azzer » 12. Jul 2007 00:07

Just the 1 queen... how would I go about getting more? Is the only way if this colony had a mating flight and one of the original queens went back in? Or would any Myrmica Rubra queen be accepted in? And how would they get accepted in? Luck? They always accepted? Random chance they get killed? Or what? Any details welcome!!!
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Beitragvon Bob » 12. Jul 2007 04:44

I would say do not try it. Ants react to scent and an ant of the same species will still have a separate scent (the same way we each have separate finger prints). One queen is enough to keep a colony going and once the colony is strong enough they will surely produce alates. it's the same way it happens in the wild and it's the same way you should let your colony progress. Don't mean to sound negative. Just would hate to see you find/purchase a lovely new queen fertile and ready to lay eggs and then and have her torn apart by your colony's workers because they don't care that she's a queen, all they will do is react by instinct to her bodily scent. By the way, your colony looks great. Hope to see a pic of two of the entire nest from above. Regards.
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Beitragvon nepenthes_ak » 12. Jul 2007 05:25

Some species will readily invite new female alates into their colonies, I cant think of the species right off the top of my head, but I beleive Solnepsis. molseta does this. Some even have their mated Sister Alates come right back into the colony. With polygenus (multi queened colonies) species it is probably common practice, but I wouldn't spend money on a queen Just in case, finding your own alates would be the best bet. You could keep a close eye on the queen when you set her in your fancy foraging chamber though, and if any ants show aggression, pluck her from danger. Ive seen damaged queens raise healthy colonies. Missing legs, dented, torn (but not punctured) exoskeleton.
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Beitragvon Skippy » 12. Jul 2007 16:25

.... so Myrmica rubra
I dont know what is your colony original country ,but I tell you it like this...
You can get queen from some region and join it to colony aslo from this one region.... region = ca 50x50m with many colonies. This colonies are like superorganism ,some worker has house-nest everywhere ,everywhere they will to accept him. And with queens is like that. Ig you keeping colony from this region ,you can search for some more queens from other nests ,they will to accept her.

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Beitragvon Sam » 16. Apr 2008 13:37

How's the colony getting on Azzer? Have they nearly filled the ytong nest yet? :)
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Re: New Y-Tong/Myrmica rubra

Beitragvon Gulaas » 22. Jan 2009 13:25

That looks ace, am going for the same thing with my next colony thanks for the inspiration!
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Re: New Y-Tong/Myrmica rubra

Beitragvon pooball879 » 7. Mai 2009 18:52

anyone know where in canada i could get a ytong nest?
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Re: New Y-Tong/Myrmica rubra

Beitragvon SteveUK28 » 8. Mai 2009 10:14

Most DIY stores.. and you would buy the ytong block.. and make the nest yourself :)
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