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[indoant]

Just saying hello, I am actually an Australian, but currently residing here in Jakarta for a short period of time.
I'm new to ant keeping, so bare with me.
These are the common ants here "Oecophylla smaragdina" they look so cool, especially the soldiers, so I decided to keep them.

[HookNick]

Hello Indoant,

very nice queens
I am keeping these Oecophylla smaragdina too.
Very interesting ants.
(This ants don't have real soldiers, these are all the same workers.)
I see, you keep them separately?
If this is the green variation, you can put them together and they will make one big colony.
What are your questions with keeping these ants? (If you have some)

Edit: Now I have a question: Is this the redbrown variation or the greenbrown variation with a green gaster?

[delete-55885]

As he is currently in Asia, those have to be the green variant. I highly doubt that he brought the brown variant with him from Australia. Also, it would be illegal if he did

[HookNick]

@Nortorn: Mal kurz auf zu Deutsch
Wenn ich es richtig gelesen habe, dann ist er Australier und hat derzeit einen kurzen Aufenthalt in Jakarta.
Ich schätze mal dort hat er sie auch gefunden. Soweit ich weiß gibt es die braunen nur in Asien und die grünen in Australien und einigen Asiatischen Gebieten.
Also wenn er sie aus Australien mitgebracht hat, dann müssten es eigentlich grüne sein, und ja es ist illegal diese aus Australien zu exportieren, aber der Import in andere Länder stellt eigentlich kein Problem dar soweit ich weiß. Genug gemutmaßt

@indoant:
Where do you found them and do you know which variation they are? (Green/Brown)

Greets Nico

[indoant]

Hi all,

Thank you for the reply,

@Nico as norton mentioned, it's the green variation.

Many of them still have wings, I only separate the wing-less, just to find out which is fertile, as they were freshly taken from the nest.
But bare in mind some of the wing-less might have its winged broken during capture.
This morning I figured out which is the fertile one. as you can see in the pict below, the darker colored might be the grand mama of those younger queen.



@Nico, I'll definitely have many questions for you, since you are very experienced in keeping them. thank you for your support.

Jeff

[indoant]

Hi guys,

I have a question, just to double check.
Green/Brown variant from Asia?
Red/Brown from Australia?
Is that right?
Sorry I'm new to this.
I may be able to get the Red/Brown variation, I'll update.

Here's my input on Oecophilla smaragdina queen maturity, just my own observation, please correct me if I'm wrong.
But I do not know how old they are, just my personal chart of quick pick.
No 1 oldest, No 5 youngest, this is my own queens.The

[delete-55885]

Hi, the fact that you are from Australia got me mixed up.
As HookNick already mentioned in german, the green ones are from Australia and the brown ones are the Asian variant. As far as I know the queens are always green for both variants.

[indoant]

Hi, the fact that you are from Australia got me mixed up.
As HookNick already mentioned in german, the green ones are from Australia and the brown ones are the Asian variant. As far as I know the queens are always green for both variants.

Hi nortorn, thank you for the input.

Reason why I asked, some local farmers has a full brown colour winged/wing-less Oecophylla smaragdina queens, it got me curious.
Another thing, the workers around my area has a greenish gaster, that's another reason I'm curious.
It could come from Australia, as most of the trees around my complex are imported from Australia.
So when I have time, I'm going to check out the queen from my local tree, which has a greenish gaster worker.

[HookNick]

Hi,

the redbrown are only in Asia, the greenbrown are from Australia, but some of them are in Asia too.

This is the redbrown variation (Asia):
http://www.antstore.net/shop/Ameisen-aus-der-ganzen-Welt-aus-Europa--Asien--Amerika--Afrika--Australien/Ameisen-aus-Asien/Oecophylla-smaragdina-Weberameisen.html

This is the greenbrown variation (Australia and Asia):
http://www.antstore.net/shop/Ameisen-aus-der-ganzen-Welt-aus-Europa--Asien--Amerika--Afrika--Australien/Ameisen-aus-Australien/Oecophylla-smaragdina--Austral--Weberameisen-.html

As you see on the pictures, the color variation means the worker. The queens both have a green gaster.
I think you have the greenbrown variation, but you can only be sure if you have the first worker.

Or you can measure the queens.
Normal length:
Redbrown: 15-17mm
Greenbrown: 20-22mm

[indoant]

Thank you for the clarification Nico,
Here's the photo of the Asian Oechophylla smaragdina Brown Variant.

[Formica123]

Any updates?