Mymecia pyriformis

Mymecia pyriformis

Beitragvon Sklex » 20. Okt 2009 13:24

Hey from downunder :mrgreen:

Recently found a nest of what we locals call inch ants in the front yard. Missus wants them gone, but the nerd in me thought an ant farm might be a tad more fun. So after hours of searching the net it appears this is the best resource of ant keeping information, however the knowledge of the local Aussie ants seems to be pretty scarce. So... does anyone know anything about keeping these over sized nasty super aggressive lil buggers?

I have built up an oversized ant nest for them.

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As you can see its pretty much the flat panel design. Glass on both sides with some very think wood to keep the sand in. Theres drainage holes in the bottom so water can seep out when it finally gets to the bottom. Ventilation holes in the top. The copper tube allows me to fill up a little pool of water, already had a major drowning incident which has since been resolved by filling the water container with rocks. There also a feeding hole. The entire top does come off, but these guys are much too aggressive to risk that and they can see me... and they dont like me... so its staying closed :wink:

I have filled the nest with your typical builders sand, its pretty grainy and more natural than the washed sands. Also threw a plant in there, It'll be interesting to see how long that lasts.

Any idea what to feed them? I was going to go with crickets as they are easy to purchase from the local reptile shop. Would they tuck into some fruit maybe?

Also I have read alot about the Europeans needing to provide heat for their nests. Well I'm having the opposite problem. After one day in the tank, under the pergola, completely out of the sun, approx 40 of the buggers went and died on me. Thankfully there was no queen, only soldiers and workers. I noticed the ones that started to dig survived. So I've caught another 10 ants and stuck them in the tank and I've watered the sand with approx 4 jugs of water. So hopefully the environment should be a little bit better tomorrow. But does anyone else have a more permanent idea to help reduce the temperature? Summers in Aus are hot enough to kill humans let alone a few ants :?

Once I've managed to keep a few of the workers alive for a while I'll have a go at catching the queen. It's just about flight season but I'm also willing to give digging the nest up a go as they have to go anyway. They are considered a pest here and pretty much every house has a nest in the front yard. Heres how we managed to catch bulk amount of ants so far. I'm sure some of you wont agree with this method, but this was a slight bit safer than picking up individual ants with sticks. The ants survived this method really well actually, and were disorientated long enough to get them in the nest. :grin:

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All you need is a stick... a large piece of cardboard shaped as a cone... and a vacuum cleaner. So we stuck the stick down the hole, jumped up on a nearby boulder, placed the cone down the hole, and then sucked the ants up as they ran onto the cardboard. The vacuum cleaner had a catchment device attached to the hose so the ants never actually entered the vacuum cleaner and were instead trapped into a plastic container ready to be transported. We also had another person acting as spotter. If any of you have ever met these ants in particular, you would know they can see you and will come at you in force, usually from behind you though, they are great at flanking. Within 5 minutes, my safe boulder was covered in soldiers and we had to leave them to calm down.

Of the 40 or so ants we caught I only noted 2 that died from the catchment technique :wink:

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Really not happy they died due to the heat. They looked so good in the tank. They even started digging on the first night!

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So any tips or information related to keeping these nasty little buggers would be greatly appreciated. =D>

Sklex (Adelaide, Australia)
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Re: Mymecia Pyriformis

Beitragvon mpke » 20. Okt 2009 20:15

You can feed them all sorts of insects and sugarwater.
But without the queen, they will not grow...
Very nice ants!
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Re: Mymecia Pyriformis

Beitragvon Sklex » 20. Okt 2009 21:43

The Queens living 2 meters from my front door... her time will come, and I'm pretty sure it's almost time for the nest to release the baby queens.
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Re: Mymecia Pyriformis

Beitragvon mpke » 20. Okt 2009 23:05

Ok,

( please answer my pm. )
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Re: Mymecia pyriformis

Beitragvon Sklex » 21. Okt 2009 12:07

I've had a few pms already, so just so you guys know. I don't yet have my own queen. I've yet to figure out how to get the queen without getting eaten alive. And its illegal for me to send anything out of the country. Aus has some seriously strict customs.
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Re: Mymecia pyriformis

Beitragvon damondeionno » 21. Okt 2009 14:18

You are clearly nuts. But it's all good. Kudos for the collection technique.

To reduce the heat you need deep shade. You might be able to achieve a similar effect using standing water that evaporates slowly.
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Re: Mymecia pyriformis

Beitragvon Sklex » 22. Okt 2009 10:40

Well I've started the colony again with a fresh batch. They have been in there for 2 days and seem to be settling in nicely.

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They have started digging :D

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The soldiers seem to like standing on this leaf... and watching me :shock:

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A shot from the top. Really need a better camera :?
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Re: Mymecia pyriformis

Beitragvon damondeionno » 22. Okt 2009 11:32

With that number of large ants, you are going to need to be feeding them quite a lot. You'd be surprised how much food they will bring into the nest when they can forage.

As it's only adults at the moment, I would suggest honey/sugar water. You are going to need to be careful to make sure it doesn't get absorbed into the sand though or you will quickly get mold problems.

I'm also a bit worried about that amount of relatively fine sand. If it dries out, it will collapse their tunnels. I think if you are looking to set something up longer term with a queen you will need a more mixed substrate. Some larger particles (fine gravel) and also perhaps some finer clay like material mixed in that will bond everything together.
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Re: Mymecia pyriformis

Beitragvon Sklex » 23. Okt 2009 13:12

You were right about the sand, had a collapse today. I'm in the process of empting the tank to start again. Going to add a few layers of sand, dirt and even thinking about adding some sticks etc as I increase the depth to add more supports.
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Re: Mymecia pyriformis

Beitragvon damondeionno » 23. Okt 2009 13:32

I don't think you need to add sticks, and it is probably best to mix up whatever you are putting in before you add it. Obviously the more fine clay like material you put in, the harder and more robust the substrate will be. The downside is that the fine clay particles will potentially make viewing more difficult.
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Re: Mymecia pyriformis

Beitragvon JimmyVe » 24. Okt 2009 11:27

Also you need to keep the farm moist. So you need a way to figer it out how to keep it moist. Look at some pictures at the gallery (here at the site) most people use a tube to the bottom of the farm, there should be some granulate (clay granulate). Seems difficult but that is just me telling it. :D (to little time for a good explenation, i will get back to it later :) )

btw: ignore the many PM from European people wanting to send you ants. ;)
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Re: Mymecia pyriformis

Beitragvon ARTUR83 » 24. Okt 2009 20:15

JimmyVe hat geschrieben:Also you need to keep the farm moist. So you need a way to figer it out how to keep it moist. Look at some pictures at the gallery (here at the site) most people use a tube to the bottom of the farm, there should be some granulate (clay granulate). Seems difficult but that is just me telling it. :D (to little time for a good explenation, i will get back to it later :) )

btw: ignore the many PM from European people wanting to send you ants. ;)



Forgive but this what you write he testifies only about you and he is gently ugly will say.
Wish that people send ants beyond their continent from Europe.
Which persons are also this so seriously they possess permission on ants dispatching now the more such comment is superfluous.
I do not come in in the matter of legalities these or different things without the offence any more.
What they are to ants beautiful and I look for alone their how as yet without the success.
Are you the modem now beyond this what you give the example? :shock:
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Re: Mymecia pyriformis

Beitragvon AndyB » 25. Okt 2009 13:45

Doesnt make a whole lot of sence what you just wote mate. just saying, try typing it out in a different language then translating it :)
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Re: Mymecia pyriformis

Beitragvon JimmyVe » 27. Okt 2009 23:10

I'm not sure about it nether, maybe you can try some translating page. Hyperlinks sind nur für registrierte Nutzer sichtbar This one workes good, i use it to some times. (maybe not enough :) )

I also wish it was easier to send ants around the world, but it isn't, in fact its illegal in some cases. Thats all that i'm saying, the sad thing of it all it that the great ants species live in such parts of the world. :D

If you look around some people sell species from all over the world, but don't ask people who don't do that.
Thats all i'm saying. :D
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Re: Mymecia pyriformis

Beitragvon ARTUR83 » 28. Okt 2009 09:30

You have sad rights.
Not the persuasion of someone to illegal acts is my aim.
I look for someone alone who could me help myrmecie win but unfortunately without the effect to now. ;/
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