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gabranth: Re: letting ants go in garden (2. Jan 2009 20:50)

nope i can tell from there prices unless antstore likes losing money you should try shipping ants from a non-eu country to the uk and see what happens

insanebe: Re: letting ants go in garden (2. Jan 2009 21:22)

you can tell they weren't imported but not where they are from originally,
they are probably breeding those ants for all you know and continental european species might carry different diseases to uk ones anyway.

gabranth: Re: letting ants go in garden (2. Jan 2009 21:42)

then they will just develop immunity to the new diseases since they will probably catch it eventually

insanebe: Re: letting ants go in garden (2. Jan 2009 21:58)

[-X that doesn't always happen

gabranth: Re: letting ants go in garden (2. Jan 2009 22:25)

yes it does otherwise we would of had loads of extinct ants though out europe when they migrated around

insanebe: Re: letting ants go in garden (2. Jan 2009 23:43)

yes it does otherwise we would of had loads of extinct ants though out europe when they migrated around

ant species do and have become extinct at a local level, and are declining through out europe. [-X

eg
Black-backed meadow ant (Formica pratensis) not seen in the uk since 1988, it is still common in europe but is declining. it is thought that the invasion of the more competitive southern wood ant (Formica rufa) has contributed to the disappearance of Formica pratensis.
Formica pratensis is now believed to be extinct in the UK, this is an example of the damage that could be caused by releasing native species into an area, or them migrating around, both these species were native to the UK and now 1 of them is gone probably forever. :cry:

Red Barbed Ant (Formica rufibarbis) is another ant common in europe but an endangered species in UK there are believed to be about 4 -14 colonies left and an action plan to try save them is underway.

Epimyrma ravouxi is a french endangered species.

In short we must do all we can to protect our native species, and i wont be posting any more replies as i think this has gone on for a little too long :grin: .

gabranth: Re: letting ants go in garden (3. Jan 2009 00:11)

yes it does otherwise we would of had loads of extinct ants though out europe when they migrated around

ant species do and have become extinct at a local level, and are declining through out europe. [-X

eg
Black-backed meadow ant (Formica pratensis) not seen in the uk since 1988, it is still common in europe but is declining. it is thought that the invasion of the more competitive southern wood ant (Formica rufa) has contributed to the disappearance of Formica pratensis.
Formica pratensis is now believed to be extinct in the UK, this is an example of the damage that could be caused by releasing native species into an area, or them migrating around, both these species were native to the UK and now 1 of them is gone probably forever. :cry:

Red Barbed Ant (Formica rufibarbis) is another ant common in europe but an endangered species in UK there are believed to be about 4 -14 colonies left and an action plan to try save them is underway.

Epimyrma ravouxi is a french endangered species.

In short we must do all we can to protect our native species, and i wont be posting any more replies as i think this has gone on for a little too long :grin: .



Black-backed meadow ant is gone in the uk because they couldn't compete that happens all the time otherwise humans wouldn't be around the other colony's like Formica rufibarbis declining would be because there habitat is being destroyed and the use of pesticides none of which have anything to do with releasing ants into your garden

derameisige: Re: letting ants go in garden (3. Jan 2009 11:32)

von gabranth am Fr Jan 02, 2009 10:42 pm

“then they will just develop immunity to the new diseases since they will probably catch it eventually”
Just as British people developed immunity against the new disease AIDS, didn’t they?

(to put the finger on your naïve way of reasoning!)

derameisige

gabranth: Re: letting ants go in garden (3. Jan 2009 12:04)

von gabranth am Fr Jan 02, 2009 10:42 pm

“then they will just develop immunity to the new diseases since they will probably catch it eventually”
Just as British people developed immunity against the new disease AIDS, didn’t they?

(to put the finger on your naïve way of reasoning!)

derameisige


that came from another continent and were talking about mixing European ants which is totally different

JimmyVe: Re: letting ants go in garden (3. Jan 2009 14:11)

I can't believe what i'm reading here, i stopped after the second page.
I thought you would now better.

WE don't let ants free in nature unless you capture them yourself in less than 10km from your home !!!
And don't start with the excuse; other people do it why can't we. If you want a better world start with yourself !

Topic closed !


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