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paulhdear: (11. Jan 2008 14:17)

Cheers Steve, and thanks to you and all for suggestions.

miszt: (11. Jan 2008 14:50)

some tropical camponutus species are ok for beginers, but the issue comes with the fact they need certain temp and humidity levels to be healthy and thrive, which can take some experience to provide in a stable way

but as Steve says, Lasius Niger are a good starter :)

paulhdear: (11. Jan 2008 14:56)

I see that C. substitutus is not avalable at present, alas. If there are no other "easy" non-hibernators, I guess I'll wait until spring. Temperature control doesn't seem to be too problematic (heat pad/lamp; I guess I could add a thermostat if more stable temperatures are an issue). Keeping a high humidity seems fairly easy in a glass tank, but perhaps it's not as tricky as it looks. I've ordered the little 'antkeeping' guide from Antstore - maybe that will help with my endless list of questions! Thanks!

miszt: (11. Jan 2008 15:29)

yes its easy to keep the humidity high, but not to keep it stable, high humidity, without good ventilation will grow molds and other nasty things, you MUST have a thermostat with a heat mat, they throw out allot of heat, espcially if they are in a confined space

its not just about keeping it hot and wet, its about keeping the tank stable and healthy for the ants to live in

even European ants need good heating during the summer months, some go to extreme lengths to do this (Formica mounds are a good example)

Highly recomend you spend some time looking at ant nest construction in the wild, and the difrent requirments they need, will help allot in the choices you make for your formicariums :)

paulhdear: (11. Jan 2008 15:40)

OK - you've convinced me! I'll wait for my C. ligniperda to wake up in the spring, and meanwhile I'll do some serious reading and research. Thanks again for all the advice!

miszt: (11. Jan 2008 15:41)

definitly worth it Paul, its easy to loose interest if your colonies start dying out, and that wuld be very sad! :( aswell as expensive lol

tail__: (11. Jan 2008 19:01)

C. lingiperda is a really lazy ant, they need much more patience than "easier" ants like Lasius niger or Formica fusca. Sometimes they cease any activity for a few months without any reason, and then start breeding quite rapidly. You must be just very, very patient. Of course hibernation may help, I think a month in refrigerator once a year would be enough, but I would try rather two months.

JimmyVe: (11. Jan 2008 19:13)

Hello paulhdear and welcome.

Looks like you already had all the help you need so for. ;)
If you are looking for a colony that grows fast i also would recommend Lasius niger , okay they hibernate but they grow very fast. If you are able to get them in spring you probably have more than 30 workers before they hibernate.

paulhdear: (11. Jan 2008 20:43)

Thanks for the comments - looks like C. ligniperda may not have been the best choice for a first colony! But I'll be patient.

Martin Sebesta at AntStore also suggested Polyrhachis dives as an easy non-hibernator - does anyone have any comments on this species? Thanks!

SteveUK28: (11. Jan 2008 20:44)

i personaly wouldnt rec these.. ask miszt if they are an easy starter ant.. im sure he will.. Not agree ;)


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