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jcrusader: Re: letting ants go in garden (2. Jan 2009 16:48)

you can give them back to the shop? plz could you give me a link to that :)

Necturus: Re: letting ants go in garden (2. Jan 2009 16:51)

grabanth,
Hey, as i thought id marked out sufficiently, this was a fictional example. If you feel more comfortable with it, exchange "germany" and "england" ;)
Unfortunately, i could only give you german articles on the topic. Does it cause harm? Yes. Diluting species local adaptions (again, NOT mixing species!) obviously will negatively effect all offspring. Those adaptions gradually came into beeing by "natural selection". Im trying to figure out to what extend i should try and explain this, but maybe you should just start by googling "evolution" and then work your way up :)

jcrusader, try writing an email to the store. In case you bought them here, try verkauf@antstore.net .
Tried convincing some friends to a new hobby? ;)

gabranth: Re: letting ants go in garden (2. Jan 2009 17:08)

Does it cause harm? Yes. Diluting species local adaptions (again, NOT mixing species!) obviously will negatively effect all offspring.



do you mean add more ants to the local environment for it to handle ?

insanebe: Re: letting ants go in garden (2. Jan 2009 19:29)

im gonna play devils advocate here and say couldn't you argue it the other way round, that by introducing a cold resistant uk adapted version you enable a small number to survive this mini german ice age where as otherwise they would become exinct. And if that did happen wouldn't that just be natural selection ?

what im trying to say is if they are the same species isn't introducing a bit of genetic variation good for them.

( having said that i would never release any of my ants into my garden native or otherwise due to risks of transmitting diseases etc)

gabranth: Re: letting ants go in garden (2. Jan 2009 20:04)

( having said that i would never release any of my ants into my garden native or otherwise due to risks of transmitting diseases etc)



why not travellers and farmers do it all the time

insanebe: Re: letting ants go in garden (2. Jan 2009 20:12)

as i said transmission of diseases, you only have to look at what happened to red squirrels decimated by squirrel pox against which they had no immunity after the introduction of grey squirrels

gabranth: Re: letting ants go in garden (2. Jan 2009 20:17)

grey squirrels came from america were talking about mixing ants from 2 country's which are native to both which is different to mixing them from different continents were there not native

insanebe: Re: letting ants go in garden (2. Jan 2009 20:28)

There are Lasius niger all over the world including america and asia who knows where the one from an ant shop came from or what its carrying.

gabranth: Re: letting ants go in garden (2. Jan 2009 20:38)

it would of came from europe its against the law to export them from america and importing them from places other than europe would involve more paper work and cost

insanebe: Re: letting ants go in garden (2. Jan 2009 20:45)

now your guessing :P


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