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NobleK: (4. Aug 2008 15:41)

No problem NobleK, i too wish to know what you asked. If you go ahead and set up using Camponotos ligniperda can you let me know how it goes?
Of course. I think I will choose Camponotos ligniperda over herceluanos because of the more interesting color.

Thank you for your answer and the link gabranth. What about the foraging area, should that be larger too?

Also, is there a time of the year more suited for starting a colony (spring/autumn) and more importantly, is there a time when it should not be done?
If there is anything else we should be aware of please let us know :)

gabranth: (4. Aug 2008 15:58)

im not sure about a foraging area it probably doesn't need to be very big as they only going to forage there

NobleK: (4. Aug 2008 16:00)

Oh, by the way, does this species hibernate and if so, at what temperature? The problem is that I live in a flat and do not have a place where the temperature is so low. If this is a requirement then I will probably have to wait for a year or so when we buy a house with a basement.
Or is there perhaps another species similar to this one (in size and easy maintenance) that does not hibernate.

gabranth: (4. Aug 2008 16:09)

yes this species require hibernation at 5-10 degree's

tail__: (4. Aug 2008 17:56)

Don't you have a refridgerator?

delete-14751: (4. Aug 2008 18:09)

I to have a flat. lol

NobleK: (4. Aug 2008 20:10)

I do have a refrigerator and have read in some of the other threads that some people actually use this method. But as gabranth points out, the farm for the Camponotos ligniperda needs to be quite large. Even if I could fit it inside our fridge it would take up half the space. And frankly, I doubt that my wife would appreciate having a ant farm together with our food :)

So it looks like I will have to wait until we find another place with some better hibernation conditions :( Unless some of you can suggest a good alternative species which either doesn’t hibernate or does so at a higher temperature. They should preferably be large, and please keep in mind that I am a beginner, so it should be something that is easy to keep.

And thanks for all the replies so far.

miszt: (4. Aug 2008 20:46)

Tropical species are your only real option if u have no way to hibernate them at all

Why do you need such a large setup for ligniperda? They will easily fit for a several years in a ytong thats 30x20cm :) you dont need to put the basin in the fridge as they wont forgage

however, the biggest problem is cooling them down slowly, so they can prepare for hibernation and build up their fat reserves

kashmir79: (4. Aug 2008 23:07)

Camponotus Ligniperda/herculaenus are the biggest i think

their queens are massive, about 16mm, majors can be 15mm too, workers about 8- 12 mm

majors have heads of the queen, and a chunky thorax.

JimmyVe: (5. Aug 2008 19:08)

Hello NobleK and welcome to the forum (and to ant keeping ;) )

Like Miszt said, if you buy a small colony they can easily fit in a small farm for a few years, these species grow very slow. So if you only have a farm that is about 30-20 that could go into your fridge. The out world don't need to be very large, to start off it is just enough if you can place food in there, when the colony is bigger it would be handy if the out world is also bigger.


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