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heeksy: (10. Jun 2007 09:56)

she seems to have blocked the tube back up with the cotton wool, i made this wet because i cant get water into the nest any other way. i think il make a plaster nest today and add the take away try to it.

darradar: (10. Jun 2007 10:02)

I used finishing plaster, it worked well.

JimmyVe: (10. Jun 2007 12:01)

Hi Heesky,

You can keep them for now in the tube and later if you do not find any y-tong you also could keep them in a plaster nest.
The are ants from south of Europe so they like higher temperatures, 22-30°c in summer, in winter +-10°c. They also have a hibernation but not so long as center European ants. (about 2-3 moths) They like seeds and insects. Don't keep the nest to moist (about 40% humidity would be fine) because they keep the seeds inside of the nest and if it is to wet they seeds will go bad.
These ants are very sensitive for stress so don't move them to much and do not look at them every day (i mean picking the tube up are something like that).

fernando_regio: (11. Jun 2007 13:09)

I have messor and im in south europe, and the biggest problem for me to the inviroment of the ants is the humidity its allways in 50 to 60% lol.

JimmyVe: (11. Jun 2007 17:44)

;) 50 to 60% is not a big problem as long as the seeds are not going bad. if they still have a dry place in there farm they will move the seeds there.

heeksy: (11. Jun 2007 21:00)

what type of seeds are best for them. i went to get grass seeds as i read these will be good, but every where only has big bags for loads of money. is it worth feeding seeds yet ? its a bit annoying because my wifes friend stayed with us until last week and she lived on mixed seeds??? thats all i ever saw her eat, she was still big.

thanks for the help everyone

darradar: (11. Jun 2007 21:17)

she was still big :lol: I like it......

You can buy grass seed at your local "Wilkinsons" store, if you have one in your area, it can be purchased in whatever quantity you like, and very cheaply as its sold loose.

Did you sort a plaster nest?

heeksy: (11. Jun 2007 21:51)

yeah iv got a wilkinsons around the corner so ill try them. I made a plaster nest yesturday it just needs a little more time to dry properly and i got some arcylic to put on top.

i made a reservoir in it to keep it moist. dont know if it will work so i put an extra hole in it to add a water tube incase.

the only problem iv got now is heating, its not 22 to 30 degres. i was thinking a heat matt if i can get one in the next week. just sit the plaster nest on that?

darradar: (11. Jun 2007 22:00)

yeah I have a small 4x5 " heat matt, wich I have placed to one corner of the nest (obviously outside under the galss tank) it is positioned in such a way, that 2 chambers are above it, at first they settled in to the chamber right on top of it, but i guess it was a little too warm, so they moved to the one above, which must be providing the temperature they prefer, as they are now thriving, and the eggs,larvae and cocoons are growing much faster with the added warmth.
So just make it so they heat is distributed in a way that different chambers get differnt amounts. (ie don't get a heat matt to cover the whole area of the nest)
Aslo it's the same for my water reserve, ther are chambers close to it, and chambers father away, so as the colony grows they can utilise them to thier own needs.

heeksy: (11. Jun 2007 22:08)

the nest is only small, about 300mm x 200 with 6 chambers. i didnt make it to big to try and stop them using it for trash as well.

il have alook on the internet and see how quick i can get one and thats small enough.

do you use a thermostat or just leave it on. i dont know how they work so im guessing you need a thermostat to atleast turn the temp up and down or do they run constant at the same temp.

the biggest problem i got now is talking my wife into keeping them inside the house somewhere.


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