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Kiam: If Queen Dies (15. Sep 2007 15:20)

Say like you have a lasius niger colony with 100 workers and your queen dies

I was curious if you could or might be able to do this

Put the dead queen in a test tube with another queen to make the other queen get its scent

Because I have heard that some species that kill queens from other colonies get accepted by getting the old queens scent...

Pugberto: (15. Sep 2007 15:57)

Try it and see if it works, I'm not sure of this theory though.

M.Marshall: (15. Sep 2007 18:58)

Hi ,
I doubt this would work , but if it ever happens to you ... which I hope not , you could try it.

Marshall :D

JimmyVe: (16. Sep 2007 12:46)

Difficult to say, probably not but it could work for some species ( Lasius niger i doubt, they are very aggressive, specially to other ants ;))

But if it happens it could be worth a shot, otherwise your hole colony is going to die.

sithmaster676: (16. Sep 2007 18:34)

the only way i could see this happening is if u literally smeared the dead remains all over the other queen, you could also try placing a fine metal mess between a queen and a colony so that the workers can slowly adapt to the new queen this might not work but i have heard cases where it has
Sithmaster676

Kiam: (16. Sep 2007 18:38)

heh I think ill try xD if i lose my queens in a colony

miszt: (16. Sep 2007 19:52)

the scent is not just on the exoskeleton of the ant, it is produced by glands, and simply rubbing the dead queen or sitting them together is not going to transfer the complex chemical signals from one to the other, from what i've read, its all about getting the workers used to the new scent, and eventually accepting it, one idea, pherhaps, would be to keep the queen close to the workers, but seperated by a thin wall of matirial that will allow the scent to be picked up, and eventualy got used to

JimmyVe: (17. Sep 2007 15:19)

Still, there is only a small change they accept a new queen, but like i said, if you queens dies in a colony of about 100 workers it is worth a try. And if it works for you it nice, but that doesn't mean it would work for everybody. ;)

sithmaster676: (17. Sep 2007 20:36)

it depends on the colony a colony like formica fusca is easily winnable because there is a species commonly known as slave raiders which kills F ormica fusca queen and takes over there colony by rolling in the juices of the dead queen.
sithmaster676

miszt: (17. Sep 2007 21:42)

Formica f usca steal brood from other colonys by infiltrating nests, they dont kill any of the other ants, where did you read about them rolling in the juices of the dead queen? (i've never heard of an Ant rolling even lol) that would be pointless, in a way Slave Raiders are parastic, and to kill the queen would be unbenifical to their colony


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