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Peenmeister: Starting a new colony (15. Nov 2008 00:42)

Hi all, first post here,

I'm currently building a nice home for a Polyrhachis dives colony. It's going to be 70*55*55cm. I've ordered the glass and some materials from Antstore. Have been reading about these ants for a few weeks now and think I am ready to start a colony. However since you have a little more experience, maybe you guys have some feedback about my planned setup.
The plan is to make an island of 60*45 cm with some branches and life plants in it. Is it wise to start of in a larger tank or would it be better to limit their space in the beginning? I could also choose to make 2 islands and use only one at first.
Heating will be done with a 40W ceramic heater. I have an airpump which I could use to keep the soil from becoming smelly and moldy, and 2 fans for ventilation. Is this needed for the climate?
Also is an island needed if I would use PTFE fluid, or will that be sufficient to keep them from escaping? I just like the look of an island setup so I think I will go for that anyway. I also am wondering whether or not it is needed to provide a small shelter first before they can expand to larger area's? Or is just an island with surrounding water enough?

SteveUK28: Re: Starting a new colony (15. Nov 2008 10:49)

Hello Peenmeister and :sign_welcome: to the forum, Im sorry but i dont have enough experience with these ants to answer all your questions. However i do know that they will make a pretty nasty mess of the water so if you are using an island i would imagine a good pump and filter for the water will be needed.

I would go for a large setup myself probabily not an island as it requires to much work... if you do a search here you should find a nice lot of information... more than enough to help you out.

Anyways Good luck with it all and keep us posted. :D

Peenmeister: Re: Starting a new colony (15. Nov 2008 20:17)

Thanks for the reaction about the island Steve, will definately consider that. Will keep browsing the forum for any info I missed, but I think I pretty much read all the topics about this specific species. I hope I'm not annoying the crap out of everyone by asking all these questions :oops: . Anyway, won't be buying the ants until I'm certain everything looks perfect and the climate is under control, and until I get some more input from you guys during the build :grin: .
I will definately keep this topic alive during the process, and will post pictures as soon as I make some progress.

JimmyVe: Re: Starting a new colony (16. Nov 2008 14:03)

Hello Peenmeister and :sign_welcome:.

You could go for the large setup, these ants grow very fast so i don't think that would be a problem.
If you use PTFE you don't need the island setup. Couldn't harm if you have more than one thing to prevent them from escaping. :)
Its nice to hear that you first build the setup and test it before you put the ants in there. (most people buy the ants first and than wonder how to keep them :) )

Good luck and if you have other questions feel free to ask.

Peenmeister: Re: Starting a new colony (16. Nov 2008 14:52)

Was initially planning on buying the ants right away, but since this is quite a build and pretty expensive, why not spend the extra 20 euro on shipping the ants seperately right.

I think I'll use the PTFE without island, just have to figure out how to lead the wires and tubes out without that being an escape-route, so thats my first challenge I think. Can anyone with experience with PTFE give an indication of its lifetime?
I will also make a lid and cabinet for the tub, with integrated light, ceramic heater, ventilation and all electronics mounted on top.

Also I hope, and expect, that they won't outgrow this tank, certainly not within the first few years or so.

Will get started building on tuesday, when the glass will arive.

JimmyVe: Re: Starting a new colony (17. Nov 2008 18:22)

It depends on the humidity how long the PTFE will hold the ants in. If you have a high humidity in your farm the PTFE will go bad sooner.

If you have a hole in one of your glass plates you could put the wires through there and than put some silicone in the hole to close it so the ants can not escape through it.

Peenmeister: Re: Starting a new colony (17. Nov 2008 20:24)


If you have a hole in one of your glass plates you could put the wires through there and than put some silicone in the hole to close it so the ants can not escape through it.

Yup, luckily I realised that I forgot to order a hole in the glass but called the glascutter to add one. That will probably be the easiest solution, although it might look a bit messy.

JimmyVe: Re: Starting a new colony (18. Nov 2008 17:49)

Probably looks a bit messy, yes. ;) But i'm sure that is the best solution and the best way to keep your ants from escaping. Use transparent silicone.

Peenmeister: Re: Starting a new colony (19. Nov 2008 00:56)

Have picked up the glass today and have constructed the tank, except for the moat I was planning to build (broke one of the strips :( ). Will make some pictures within the next few days.
Oh and I do use transparent silicone :)

JimmyVe: Re: Starting a new colony (19. Nov 2008 18:40)

Will make some pictures within the next few days.

Sure do. ;)


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