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bugsy: Re: Messor barbarus (22. Okt 2011 13:27)

Wow, just settled them in their new home, there is about 60 workers. :shock: I will post pictures when i get my mew camera. There taking seeds already.

Markus: Re: Messor barbarus (24. Okt 2011 08:59)

Hi,
I'm thinking too, that most people here are reading but not writing because they like your posts - but don't want to repeat all the time, what is said... ^^
So meny ants in this time are enough for a good year.
Messor barbarus are really different in the developement...

It is interesting too, that you have the same experience with the temperatures, they don't notice them so much like lite, often they go to places where heating cables are, but with appearing lite, they flee back in the dark nest...
And in an path, I build for them outsinde the warm structure for them, to provocate settling in another new Nest, they ignored the temperature difference and went in the dark part in the ytong...

Whell thats the constante: they often will do the difference of what you want them to - and if you don't care, they do, what you want them to. :P :grin:

Andie: Re: Messor barbarus (25. Okt 2011 20:01)

Both colonies have been doing something strange with their water bowls., (the milk bottle lids with cotton wool inside). They have been filling them with sand and then tunneling into it. The extra water has also caused condensation in their small arena which has caused the sand in the arena to stick together, so they are tunneling everywhere. The temps now have gone back up to 18-20 c and they are acting normally again but with no signs of hibernation. If the temps remain high, they will have to go into my attic probably at the end of november.

Markus: Re: Messor barbarus (26. Okt 2011 07:41)

One of the Reasons, I don't give sand to them, but even in Ytong they start tunneling...
18-20°C are still very high, as long as you let them sink, it might work at 10-15°C...

Andie: Re: Messor barbarus (26. Okt 2011 08:32)

Lesson learnt Markus :wink: It will eventually get colder for sure ..

mtrein: Re: Messor barbarus (26. Okt 2011 12:45)

Will they tunnel in plaster as well? I plan on having Messor and put them in a plaster nest since they like it dry.

Andie: Re: Messor barbarus (26. Okt 2011 14:03)

I think they will but i haven't had experience of this yet. Mine will eventually go into either a y-tong or a plaster nest but it will be inside their arena just incase, or at least in some kind of escape proof container.

mtrein: Re: Messor barbarus (26. Okt 2011 16:30)

The plaster nests I make are all inside a plastic tupperware container just in case.

But if they di through plaster then I might as well just make a very shallow nest so they can't hide.

Andie: Re: Messor barbarus (26. Okt 2011 17:47)

I think that even if they destroy the nest, they will be doing something natural.

Markus: Re: Messor barbarus (28. Okt 2011 08:01)

I don't come to the google translator so is plaster the same as Gips in german?
If it is: they come better through it, then through Ytong, and a big colony don't need days for tunneling in plasterparts of a nest- in the arena I used it too, but they dont try to destroy... perhaps because I just give water to it sometimes and not often!?

Through Ytong they tunnel very fast and you may see just a small amount of the colony, hundrets of ants could be there and you would not see them, often the queen is with them and you may think that she is dead... not very good for the ant-holder, and they could escape this way too!

Experiences with stronger building materials are made here:
http://www.antstore.net/viewtopic.php?f=135&t=15304&st=0&sk=t&sd=a


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