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Lewis: Soil for Camponotus ligniperdus (10. Apr 2011 18:01)

hi everyone,

does anyone know if it is possible to mix shop bought compost with sand as a substrate for these ants?
and also do you think they would burrow in this? :wink:

Regards

SteveUK28: Re: soil for Camponotus ligniperdus (11. Apr 2011 10:16)

i wouldnt myself as there is a very good chance the shop brought compost will have insecticides in it which could kill your ants. Instead i would go and buy some coconut bark or something along the same lines, if you do not know where to buy some just send me a PM and i'll point you in the right direction.

bugsy: Re: soil for Camponotus ligniperdus (11. Apr 2011 11:53)

I wouldn't either, I keep mine in a y-tong with no substrate. They are growing well and seem to love it, plus you can see everything including the progress of the colony. If you have the ability to view them then you can cateer for any thing that goes wrong. But if you want to anyway you can buy certain soils with no insecticides, just be careful.

Markus: Re: soil for Camponotus ligniperdus (11. Apr 2011 14:15)

In a ytong?
Could you take pictures, please?

Lewis: Re: soil for Camponotus ligniperdus (11. Apr 2011 21:58)

Well I have used the same compost for my emperor scopion and it is doing great so I do not no if it would be ok also for my camponotus ligniperda. The set up will include a y-tong up against the side of the glass with substrate behind it so that is why I was hopeing that they would not dig in the compost and choose the y-tong instead. I am planning on having the substrate deep enough so they can just walk in so they do not have to struggle climbing the sides of the y-tong. If you guys could give any other suggestions on a suitable substrate then I would be greatful. @ Steve, I will have a look at cocconut bark.

Regards

Lewis: Re: soil for Camponotus ligniperdus (11. Apr 2011 22:31)

I have a couple of other questions for you

- how wet should keep my y- tong
- how often should they be fed (expecting a queen with a few workers)
- what is the ideal temperature for these ants both in the nest and in the feeding area.
- and is there a good way of measuring the temp of the nest

Regards

bugsy: Re: soil for Camponotus ligniperdus (12. Apr 2011 11:57)

The main trouble with compost and soil etc in my opinion is:-
1) There is always that chance that your ants will dig in, more so when the colony is young and small, no problems with this, just you cant see them.
2) Soil/compost is very dark, Camponotus ligniperda are also dark with a slight red shine between the legs. Your viewing options are going to be reduced.

Your y-tong should be moist in one section so they can choose where to live. A small colony will eat very little, its the brood that need feeding and there wont be much for the first year. Sugar solution and pure water are a must. This species grows slow in the first year don't expect things to happen fast.

Lewis: Re: soil for Camponotus ligniperdus (12. Apr 2011 17:45)

thank you bugsy,
Looking at the pictures below I want to have the substrate so it is the same height as the y-tong so the ants don't have to struggle climbing up.
If it is not a good idea to have deep substrate to the what could I use instead?
As I said above the colony will be a queen with the possibility of a few workers so how long should I leave it before i put the ants in?

Regards

bugsy: Re: Soil for Camponotus ligniperdus (12. Apr 2011 18:53)

Simply use a twig or cut up a piece of card to act like a bridge. They will find the route to the y-tong when they forage, although they may not even move from the test tube for weeks. Just don't force them, eventually they will move.

Lewis: Re: Soil for Camponotus ligniperdus (12. Apr 2011 19:05)

I have found a way of solving my problem here are the photos.
I have ordered the ants :) .


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