SteveUK28: (20. Jan 2008 15:17)

nothing wrong with them lol.. Im just running out of space lol

JimmyVe: (20. Jan 2008 18:01)

@mpir: yes, i think if you heat it up till 28-30°c it would go much faster. Also your colony is going to grow much faster.

If you have a y-tong nest, the easiest way to heat that up is with a heat mat on it, and if you like you can heat up the out world with a heat lamp. That is the way i do it and it works fine. You may do it another way. ;)

mpir: (20. Jan 2008 21:57)

@mpir: yes, i think if you heat it up till 28-30°c it would go much faster. Also your colony is going to grow much faster.

28-30°C ??? I'm not so sure if that is a good idea. I mean maybe it works and all, the colony does grow faster, but think about it. I know Messor barbarus is South European species, but it makes its nests in the ground. Meaning that it is well protected from the burning sun. Only one meter down in earth the temperature can be much lower. I know for example that some caves have constant temperature all year round like 10°C.

kashmir79: (21. Jan 2008 00:21)

good point

i know Messor's like to have cool/dry areas to stop seeds from germanating.

JimmyVe: (21. Jan 2008 16:39)

Okay i need to explain this part a bit better, my fold. ;)

I meant in summer up to 28-30°c, but not the hole nest, just a part of it. They probably going to keep the larvae there (in the hot place). In deed they live in South Europe, in summer its sometimes 40°c outside there. Than the ants keep there brood underneath the ground but if it is colder, +- 30°c they sometimes bring the brood above ground (most species do that not only this one)

I hope you understand it better now.

SteveUK28: (21. Jan 2008 17:20)

Jimmy how hot does it have to be for the queen to be laying eggs then.. is around 21-25 ok ??

JimmyVe: (21. Jan 2008 21:08)

Well she start laying eggs after hibernation, so it could be 21-25°c yes.

ant dude: (21. Jan 2008 21:55)

think i may get some of these ants :-k

hey um do u guys think i should be ok with these ants, if i were to buy some???......if so wot seeds do u give to them....only heard of grass lol???this maybe be covered else where, an if it is i'm sorry #-o

i fault i'll ask before buying them btw......

kashmir79: (21. Jan 2008 22:24)

well they are not paticulary best for beginners, as others have said, but Messors can be quite Stressed easily, wich can kill them, you need to know to give them their own space.

but you should be ok if you have some species before hand

ant dude: (21. Jan 2008 22:45)

thanks kashmir79 :sun01:

but how do u mean by giving them there own space sorry???

i have kept other species before yes but there all really centural european 8) by stress easily i have heard mentioned before but, does this including noises aswell as vibrations or somthink??? as with my music an people shout now an then(parents usually lol) :smile:

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