ant4o: Help to ID please (2. Jun 2010 20:49)

Hi, before 5 days i catched my new queen. Yesterday I saw that the queen has 9 eggs. She is very small - 5 mm. Please help me to determine her spiece. The queen is founded in Bulgaria
Pictures:
http://antclub.ru/forum/mirmekologiya/opredelenie-vida/my-new-queen/images/img-3292-jpg
http://antclub.ru/forum/mirmekologiya/opredelenie-vida/my-new-queen/images/img-3288-jpg
http://antclub.ru/forum/mirmekologiya/opredelenie-vida/my-new-queen/images/img-3295-jpg

The queen is founded in Bulgaria => is one of this spieces:
Family Formicidae in Bulgaria

* Subfamily Ponerinae
o Genus Amblyopone
+ Amblyopone denticulatum (Roger)
+ Amblyopone impressifrons (Emery)
o Genus Proceratium
+ Proceratium melinum (Roger)
o Genus Cryptopone
+ Cryptopone ochraceum (Mayr)
o Genus Hypoponera
+ Hypoponera eduardi (Forel)
+ Hypoponera punctatissima (Roger)
o Genus Ponera
+ Ponera coarctata (Latreille)

* Subfamily Myrmicinae
o Genus Manica
+ Manica rubida (Latreille)
o Genus Myrmica
+ Myrmica rubra (Linnaeus)
+ Myrmica rubra (Linnaeus)
+ Myrmica ruginodis Nylander
+ Myrmica sulcinodis Nylander
+ Myrmica rugulosa Nylander
+ Myrmica gallieni Bondroit
+ Myrmica bessarabica Nasonov
+ Myrmica scabrinodis Nylander
+ Myrmica sabuleti Meinert
+ Myrmica schencki Emery
+ Myrmica lobicornis Nylander
o Genus Stenamma
+ Stenamma debile Westwood
o Genus Aphaenogaster
+ Aphaenogaster (Attomyrma) epirotes (Emery)
+ Aphaenogaster (Attomyrma) gibbosa (Latreille)
+ Aphaenogaster (Attomyrma) subterranean (Latreille)
o Genus Messor
+ Messor structor (Latreille)
+ Messor oertzeni Forel
+ Messor atanassovi Atanassov
+ Messor caducus (Motschulski)
o Genus Chalepoxenus
+ Chalepoxenus muellerianus
o Genus Pheidole
+ Pheidole pallidula (Nylander)
o Genus Temnothorax
+ Temnothorax recedens (Nylander)
o Genus Leptothorax
+ Leptothorax (Leptothorax) acervorum (Fabricius)
+ Leptothorax (Leptothorax) muscorum (Nylander)
+ Leptothorax (Myrafant) affinis Mayr
+ Leptothorax (Myrafant) nadigi
+ Leptothorax (Myrafant) clypeatus (Mayr)
+ Leptothorax (Myrafant) corticalis (Schenck)
+ Leptothorax (Myrafant) interruptus (Schenck)
+ Leptothorax (Myrafant) melanocephalus Emery
+ Leptothorax (Myrafant) crassispinus
+ Leptothorax (Myrafant) parvulus (Schenck)
+ Leptothorax (Myrafant) semiruber Andre
+ Leptothorax (Myrafant) tuberum (Fabricius)
+ Leptothorax (Myrafant) unifasciatus (Latreille)
o Genus Formicoxenus
+ Formicoxenus nitidulus (Nylander)
o Genus Strongylognathus
+ Strongylognathus testaceus (Schenck)
+ Strongylognathus bulgaricus Viehmeyer
o Genus Anergates
+ Anergates atratulus (Schenck)
o Genus Monomorium
+ Monomorium pharaonis (Linnaeus)
o Genus Solenopsis
+ Solenopsis fugax (Latreille)
o Genus Cardiocondyla
+ Cardiocondyla elegans Emery
+ Cardiocondyla bulgarica Forel
+ Cardiocondyla stambuloffii Forel
o Genus Myrmecina
+ Myrmecina graminicola (Latreille)
o Genus Crematogaster
+ Crematogaster (Orthocrema) sordidula (Nylander)
+ Crematogaster (Acrocoelia) schmidti Mayr

* Subfamily Dolichoderinae
o Genus Dolichoderus
+ Dolichoderus qudripunctata (Linnaeus)
o Genus Liometopum
+ Liometopum microcephalum (Panzer)
o Genus Tapinoma
+ Tapinoma erraticum (Latreille)
o Genus Bothriomyrmex
+ Bothriomyrmex communista Santschi
o Genus Linepithema
+ Linepithema humile (Mayr)

* Subfamily Formicinae
o Genus Plagiolepis
+ Plagiolepis pygmaea (Latreille)
+ Plagiolepis vindobonensis Lomnicki
o Genus Acantholepis
+ Acantholepis frauenfeldi (Mayr)
o Genus Camponotus
+ Camponotus (Camponotus) herculeanus Linnaeus
+ Camponotus (Camponotus) ligniperda (Latreille)
+ Camponotus (Camponotus) vagus (Scopoli)
+ Camponotus (Tanaemyrmex) aetipos (Latreille)
+ Camponotus (Tanaemyrmex) samius Forel
+ Camponotus (Myrmentoma) fallax (Nylander)
+ Camponotus (Myrmentoma) piceus (Leach)
+ Camponotus (Myrmentoma) dalmaticus (Nylander)
+ Camponotus (Myrmentoma) lateralis (Olivier)
+ Camponotus (Colobopsis) truncatus (Spinola)
o Genus Prenolepis
+ Prenolepis nitens (Mayr)
o Genus Lasius
+ Lasius (Lasius) niger (Linnaeus)
+ Lasius (Lasius) alienus (Forster)
+ Lasius (Lasius) brunneus (Latreille)
+ Lasius (Lasius) emarginatus (Olivier)
+ Lasius (Cautolasius) flavus (Fabricius)
+ Lasius (Dendrolasius) fuliginosus (Latreille)
+ Lasius (Chthonolasius) umbratus (Nylander)
+ Lasius (Chthonolasius) meridionalis (Bondroit)
+ Lasius (Chthonolasius) citrinus Emery
+ Lasius (Chthonolasius) mixtus (Nylander)
+ Lasius (Chthonolasius) bicornis (Fabricius)
+ Lasius (Austrolasius) carniolicus Mayr
o Genus Formica
+ Formica (Serviformica) fusca Linnaeus
+ Formica (Serviformica) lemani Bondroit
+ Formica (Serviformica) candida
+ Formica (Serviformica) balcanina
+ Formica (Serviformica) rufibarbis Fabricius
+ Formica (Serviformica) cunicularia Latreille
+ Formica (Serviformica) gagates Latreille
+ Formica (Formica) truncorum Fabricius
+ Formica (Formica) pratensis Retzius
+ Formica (Formica) lugubris Zetterstedt
+ Formica (Formica) aquilonia Yarrow
+ Formica (Formica) rufa Linnaeus
+ Formica (Formica) polyctena Forster
+ Formica (Raptiformica) sanguinea Latreille
+ Formica (Coptoformica) exsecta Nylander
+ Formica (Coptoformica) pressilabris Nylander
o Genus Proformica
+ Proformica striaticeps (Forel)
+ Proformica kobachidzei Arnoldi
+ Proformica pilosiscapus Dlussky
o Genus Cataglyphis
+ Cataglyphis nodus (Brulle)
+ Cataglyphis livida bulgarica Atanassov
+ Cataglyphis aenescens (Nylander)

The egss are 0,4 mm.

Creature: Re: Help to ID please (2. Jun 2010 21:08)

There is almost no way to identify her. We need way better pictures then those.

On the first look she looks like , Lasius/Formica/Camponotus.................. queen

GreenIguana: Re: Help to ID please (2. Jun 2010 21:25)

It is surely no Camponotus or Formica species, the abdomen is to long.
I thought about Plagiolepsis, but this picture is really bad.

What do you thing of this queen?
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/45/140313166_be359de859.jpg

Mabey it is Plagiolepis pygmea, because of that the queens are very small I read.
I think I'm on the right way :mrgreen:

ant4o: Re: Help to ID please (3. Jun 2010 09:08)

It is surely no Camponotus or Formica species, the abdomen is to long.
I thought about Plagiolepsis, but this picture is really bad.

What do you thing of this queen?
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/45/140313166_be359de859.jpg

Mabey it is Plagiolepis pygmea, because of that the queens are very small I read.
I think I'm on the right way :mrgreen: Thank you. The queen looks exactly like this picture, but is a little more black. Like that - http://www.lamarabunta.org/4images/details.php?image_id=6613 , but this is Plagiolepis pygmea => my queen is Plagiolepis pygmea.
Thanks

ant4o: Re: Help to ID please (3. Jun 2010 09:52)

Please give me more information for this speice.
How time egg is egg, larva is larva, pupa is pupa?
How years live the queen?
With what food to feed the colony?

ant4o: Re: Help to ID please (3. Jun 2010 09:53)

Now the ant have choklate, honey and oat kernel

GreenIguana: Re: Help to ID please (3. Jun 2010 09:55)

So it is this ant?? :mrgreen:

If you have now only a queen, don't feed her.
She lays eggs without food and feed the larvas.
I think upto the first worker ist takes 1 or maybe 2 months, than you can feed them with crickets.

ant4o: Re: Help to ID please (5. Jun 2010 10:36)

Hi, the queen have 9 eggs. How many workers I can expect :?:
Thanks

GreenIguana: Re: Help to ID please (5. Jun 2010 15:01)

9 :grin:
But I think she lays more eggs.

ant4o: Re: Help to ID please (5. Jun 2010 16:44)

9 :grin:
But I think she lays more eggs.
But the queen does not want to use some eggs for larvae feed?