Here is one pic of a queen , its not my queen but the same species.
Oh, they look quite different. The colourdifferencies of thorax and head suggest that they are not the same species, but they could be closely related.
To be honest your queen looks like Messor barbarus to me, this is why you will be at it forever :p
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Hello
For me it looks like semirufus.
But the colony musted be bigger. I see just media castes on your pics, no minors. I think they had something around 200 workers, not just 20... One my friend keeps them, I know how minors of this spec. looks like... And young colonies of Messor also ocure highier deep in soil. Soil on your picture looks dry. So I think that colony musted be in 50cm deep....
I have that experience, that Messor workers dies, when you catch them by your fingers if you are moving them... It´s somethink like that you destroy and break their hair sensors for vibrations and other types of pulses on ther abdomen and thorax and head and they have problem than, walking in the arena and than die... One my friend has also this experience, with M. arenarius ratus.
@Coy: Is that your photo????? One my friend from Israel have photographed the same M. aegyptiacus worker photo, I see now that it´s his photo, not yourse...
@Insanebebe:
The workers are totally different (head shape, colour and queen's colour), and this queen is much smaller than my Messor Barbarus queen (0,9-1,0mm vs. 1,4-1,6mm).
@Messorus:
BUMMER. I didn't know that picking by hand could get them killed :O I picked most of the workers with the bottle (worker was on ground and i took it +some soil with the bottle, you know, like a shovel)
Yes, i'm sure that it was a bigger colony but I didn't have any equipment to dig so deep. I'm lucky that the queen was so close to surface. There were some really big majors so it had to be a bigger colony.
ps. Coy said it was not his queen :)
I got my colony from your friend so I took his picture because I have no camera to make good pictures.
@Insanebebe:
The workers are totally different (head shape, colour and queen's colour), and this queen is much smaller than my Messor Barbarus queen (0,9-1,0mm vs. 1,4-1,6mm).
@Messorus:
BUMMER. I didn't know that picking by hand could get them killed :O I picked most of the workers with the bottle (worker was on ground and i took it +some soil with the bottle, you know, like a shovel)
Yes, i'm sure that it was a bigger colony but I didn't have any equipment to dig so deep. I'm lucky that the queen was so close to surface. There were some really big majors so it had to be a bigger colony.
ps. Coy said it was not his queen :)
obviously, point i was making is u can't tell by looking
obviously, point i was making is u can't tell by looking
Well, you cant really know for sure but you can have a pretty good hunch and I think that would be satisfactory.
Good news:
There is a big pile of eggs and I presume some larvae too. They have eaten some fly cocoon stuffings and there is no new deaths.
Semi news:
They haven't collected any seeds yet.
Bad news: --
I think it is to soon for them to collect seeds.